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		<title>By: Vegas from Vancouver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vegas from Vancouver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been looking for ever to find info on this, thanks very much</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been looking for ever to find info on this, thanks very much</p>
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		<title>By: Escort or not</title>
		<link>http://www.thelasvegascourtesan.com/2008/10/27/my-opinion-on-the-san-francisco-prop-k/comment-page-1/#comment-720</link>
		<dc:creator>Escort or not</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish every state could acted as holland, there you can trade your sexy body for something you want!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish every state could acted as holland, there you can trade your sexy body for something you want!</p>
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		<title>By: Tully</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tully</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Prop K was defeated in yesterday&#039;s election.  I think it&#039;s for the best.  As an independent, I always resented that it was written by a pimp (and a mean female one at that.)

I agree it would bring all kinds of competition and attention on San Francisco and that&#039;s the last thing we need.  If it just had said that cops could not arrest sex workers it would have been so much better.  But it was a real mess and seemed to say that the cops had to leave pimps alone too and THAT is dangerous as hell in this town.

Hooray for Obama by the way!

Peace Out</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Prop K was defeated in yesterday&#8217;s election.  I think it&#8217;s for the best.  As an independent, I always resented that it was written by a pimp (and a mean female one at that.)</p>
<p>I agree it would bring all kinds of competition and attention on San Francisco and that&#8217;s the last thing we need.  If it just had said that cops could not arrest sex workers it would have been so much better.  But it was a real mess and seemed to say that the cops had to leave pimps alone too and THAT is dangerous as hell in this town.</p>
<p>Hooray for Obama by the way!</p>
<p>Peace Out</p>
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		<title>By: lasvegascourtesan</title>
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		<dc:creator>lasvegascourtesan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>figleaf:  
I honestly believe after talking to girls here in Vegas who have formerly worked in brothels in Pahrump and reading some of the blogs of girls who have worked and blogged about their experiences working in brothels, that the brothels sometimes sound like a place that gives the girls less independence for what they want to do or sell. I know a girl here personally in Vegas who told me stories of how if a cabbie brought a customer out to the ranch she would have to offer everything for the minimum pricing of $200 (which she gets $100 of). To me that seems forceful and telling what the girl has to do with her body. In my case, working independently and for agencies, if I don&#039;t like the tip or it&#039;s not sufficient for the entertainment the client requests and I tried everything to make a deal, I can leave. I am never forced or encouraged to do anything I don&#039;t want to do. Even if I feel very unsafe, I can walk out the door and don&#039;t fear getting yelled at for leaving a client unsatisfied. I&#039;d refer to an entry &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thelasvegascourtesan.com/2008/05/14/las-vegas-escort-agencies-how-do-they-really-work/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I wrote a while back&lt;/a&gt; about who gets what cut. At least with agencies you don&#039;t entertain anyone for the fee... but sometimes, depending on the day, you waste a lot of time trying to make $ 

Peridot Ash:  Yea I had considered the same thing about San Francisco being known as the place to get a prostitute, but hadn&#039;t written it in the entry. Oops forgot that part. I think a lot of people are getting some idea that they are legalizing prostitution (idiots) and can&#039;t see the line between decriminalizing and making it legal all together. I&#039;d hate to see San Francisco borrow our motto of &quot;what happens here stays here&quot; but I really can&#039;t see the demographic and touristy aspects of the city turning that way. I think San Fran is a city of its own and will remain ahead with its own individuality (with the gay scene and womens rights)and probably wouldn&#039;t become the next Vegas for the sex trade. I could see the fear though...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>figleaf:<br />
I honestly believe after talking to girls here in Vegas who have formerly worked in brothels in Pahrump and reading some of the blogs of girls who have worked and blogged about their experiences working in brothels, that the brothels sometimes sound like a place that gives the girls less independence for what they want to do or sell. I know a girl here personally in Vegas who told me stories of how if a cabbie brought a customer out to the ranch she would have to offer everything for the minimum pricing of $200 (which she gets $100 of). To me that seems forceful and telling what the girl has to do with her body. In my case, working independently and for agencies, if I don&#8217;t like the tip or it&#8217;s not sufficient for the entertainment the client requests and I tried everything to make a deal, I can leave. I am never forced or encouraged to do anything I don&#8217;t want to do. Even if I feel very unsafe, I can walk out the door and don&#8217;t fear getting yelled at for leaving a client unsatisfied. I&#8217;d refer to an entry <a href="http://www.thelasvegascourtesan.com/2008/05/14/las-vegas-escort-agencies-how-do-they-really-work/" rel="nofollow">I wrote a while back</a> about who gets what cut. At least with agencies you don&#8217;t entertain anyone for the fee&#8230; but sometimes, depending on the day, you waste a lot of time trying to make $ </p>
<p>Peridot Ash:  Yea I had considered the same thing about San Francisco being known as the place to get a prostitute, but hadn&#8217;t written it in the entry. Oops forgot that part. I think a lot of people are getting some idea that they are legalizing prostitution (idiots) and can&#8217;t see the line between decriminalizing and making it legal all together. I&#8217;d hate to see San Francisco borrow our motto of &#8220;what happens here stays here&#8221; but I really can&#8217;t see the demographic and touristy aspects of the city turning that way. I think San Fran is a city of its own and will remain ahead with its own individuality (with the gay scene and womens rights)and probably wouldn&#8217;t become the next Vegas for the sex trade. I could see the fear though&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Peridot Ash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peridot Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you might know I&#039;m based in San Francisco and to tell the truth, I&#039;m not sure yet how I&#039;ll be voting on Prop K. 

As a working girl I welcome the idea of not having to fear getting busted for doing my own thing, as well as knowing that pimps and traffickers won&#039;t be off the hook. But somebody working at my level (independent BDSM, no sex--technically, very discreet) is pretty much left alone in San Francisco as it is. So one of my concerns with Prop K is pure, selfish protection of my own affairs. I wonder if Prop K passes, if more women from outside will flock to the city as a safe haven to do their biz more openly, driving my own rates down and compelling me to put myself more out in the open in order to attract business. 

Also, as a city resident, I&#039;m concerned about attracting that certain yahoo element from the outside: &quot;Whoo-hooo, hookers just got legal in &#039;San Fran!&#039; Party time!&quot; That element is a demand that can&#039;t get it&#039;s needs met legally almost everywhere else, and that demand might attract more supply, not to mention all the drinking, drugging, puking, and littering that arrive from the kind of people who over-indulge themselves because nobody from &quot;home&quot; can see them. As a Vegas resident yourself, you probably know exactly the character I&#039;m talking about. 

I&#039;m also wondering if Prop K will gain San Francisco a reputation, deserved or not, for being the place to go for S-E-X. Yes, I KNOW that Prop K isn&#039;t about setting up legalized brothels on every street corner and letting pimps run rampant in the night, but I do wonder about how &quot;the elements&quot; (to put it nicely) that buzz around the sex industry will affect my city if this prop passes. Comment #2 on this thread is an example already: People outside of the issue and this city may or may not understand what exactly it&#039;s about. Not to mention the very many people who will only remember the &quot;SEX&quot; part of &quot;decriminializing sex work&quot; and spread the word that San Francisco is one, great big red light district and a great place to drive in for your bachelor party. I do not want to have my San Francisco nights populated with hordes of sex-seeking out-of-towners who may or may not share the other woman and gay-friendly values that make this city special.   

Still undecided on how I&#039;ll vote at this moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you might know I&#8217;m based in San Francisco and to tell the truth, I&#8217;m not sure yet how I&#8217;ll be voting on Prop K. </p>
<p>As a working girl I welcome the idea of not having to fear getting busted for doing my own thing, as well as knowing that pimps and traffickers won&#8217;t be off the hook. But somebody working at my level (independent BDSM, no sex&#8211;technically, very discreet) is pretty much left alone in San Francisco as it is. So one of my concerns with Prop K is pure, selfish protection of my own affairs. I wonder if Prop K passes, if more women from outside will flock to the city as a safe haven to do their biz more openly, driving my own rates down and compelling me to put myself more out in the open in order to attract business. </p>
<p>Also, as a city resident, I&#8217;m concerned about attracting that certain yahoo element from the outside: &#8220;Whoo-hooo, hookers just got legal in &#8216;San Fran!&#8217; Party time!&#8221; That element is a demand that can&#8217;t get it&#8217;s needs met legally almost everywhere else, and that demand might attract more supply, not to mention all the drinking, drugging, puking, and littering that arrive from the kind of people who over-indulge themselves because nobody from &#8220;home&#8221; can see them. As a Vegas resident yourself, you probably know exactly the character I&#8217;m talking about. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also wondering if Prop K will gain San Francisco a reputation, deserved or not, for being the place to go for S-E-X. Yes, I KNOW that Prop K isn&#8217;t about setting up legalized brothels on every street corner and letting pimps run rampant in the night, but I do wonder about how &#8220;the elements&#8221; (to put it nicely) that buzz around the sex industry will affect my city if this prop passes. Comment #2 on this thread is an example already: People outside of the issue and this city may or may not understand what exactly it&#8217;s about. Not to mention the very many people who will only remember the &#8220;SEX&#8221; part of &#8220;decriminializing sex work&#8221; and spread the word that San Francisco is one, great big red light district and a great place to drive in for your bachelor party. I do not want to have my San Francisco nights populated with hordes of sex-seeking out-of-towners who may or may not share the other woman and gay-friendly values that make this city special.   </p>
<p>Still undecided on how I&#8217;ll vote at this moment.</p>
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		<title>By: LiaStarLight</title>
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		<dc:creator>LiaStarLight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 03:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s should be noted that Prop K doesn&#039;t legalize, like the Nevada brothels. It decriminalizes. Legalization would entail regulations. Decriminalization doesn&#039;t.

The theory is that decriminalization might actually work to get some people off the streets, into safer places to work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s should be noted that Prop K doesn&#8217;t legalize, like the Nevada brothels. It decriminalizes. Legalization would entail regulations. Decriminalization doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>The theory is that decriminalization might actually work to get some people off the streets, into safer places to work.</p>
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		<title>By: figleaf</title>
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		<dc:creator>figleaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, LVK.  Great point about pimps.  I&#039;ll be linking to you in a post of my own.

Any idea how Prop K will relate to brothels?  It seems to me that, based on your experience and those of other Nevada bloggers the legal framework there, as in Australia, is that brothel owners get to keep their workers over a barrel.

Related question, possibly for a different post: What about escort booking agencies?  Except for maybe managing credit card transactions they seem to charge extortionate percentages for next to no service for you.  What impact do you expect legalization would have on their line of virtual pimping?

Thanks,

figleaf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, LVK.  Great point about pimps.  I&#8217;ll be linking to you in a post of my own.</p>
<p>Any idea how Prop K will relate to brothels?  It seems to me that, based on your experience and those of other Nevada bloggers the legal framework there, as in Australia, is that brothel owners get to keep their workers over a barrel.</p>
<p>Related question, possibly for a different post: What about escort booking agencies?  Except for maybe managing credit card transactions they seem to charge extortionate percentages for next to no service for you.  What impact do you expect legalization would have on their line of virtual pimping?</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>figleaf</p>
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