Comments on: The Worst Security In Las Vegas Award Goes To…… Mandalay Bay! http://www.thelasvegascourtesan.com/2008/06/08/the-worst-security-in-las-vegas-award-goes-to%e2%80%a6%e2%80%a6-mandalay-bay/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-worst-security-in-las-vegas-award-goes-to%25e2%2580%25a6%25e2%2580%25a6-mandalay-bay The Confessions and Self-Portrait Erotica of a Las Vegas Escort and Sex Worker Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:00:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: The Las Vegas Courtesan - Las Vegas Escorts Blog and Erotic Photography - One Photo a Day » How To Get An Escort In Las Vegas: A First Timers Guide http://www.thelasvegascourtesan.com/2008/06/08/the-worst-security-in-las-vegas-award-goes-to%e2%80%a6%e2%80%a6-mandalay-bay/comment-page-1/#comment-291 The Las Vegas Courtesan - Las Vegas Escorts Blog and Erotic Photography - One Photo a Day » How To Get An Escort In Las Vegas: A First Timers Guide Thu, 10 Jul 2008 23:14:46 +0000 http://www.thelasvegascourtesan.com/?p=66#comment-291 [...] commented in this entry about me making a post about how to get an escort here in Las Vegas for the first time and how to [...] [...] commented in this entry about me making a post about how to get an escort here in Las Vegas for the first time and how to [...]

]]> By: lasvegascourtesan http://www.thelasvegascourtesan.com/2008/06/08/the-worst-security-in-las-vegas-award-goes-to%e2%80%a6%e2%80%a6-mandalay-bay/comment-page-1/#comment-287 lasvegascourtesan Thu, 03 Jul 2008 07:51:40 +0000 http://www.thelasvegascourtesan.com/?p=66#comment-287 Thanks for the encouragement... So far on the legal front of the situation. What sucks is pressing things against the guard and a whole new legal battle that would take forever and I wouldn't see benefiting myself. Sucks... one thing I hate is the legal system, for sure. Hope you have a good time here for your birthday! Thanks for the encouragement… So far on the legal front of the situation. What sucks is pressing things against the guard and a whole new legal battle that would take forever and I wouldn’t see benefiting myself. Sucks… one thing I hate is the legal system, for sure.

Hope you have a good time here for your birthday!

]]> By: Navyguy http://www.thelasvegascourtesan.com/2008/06/08/the-worst-security-in-las-vegas-award-goes-to%e2%80%a6%e2%80%a6-mandalay-bay/comment-page-1/#comment-286 Navyguy Tue, 01 Jul 2008 04:47:10 +0000 http://www.thelasvegascourtesan.com/?p=66#comment-286 Hope that you keep us updated on the legal proceedings against the Mandalay. I would really like to see you compensated for your embarrassment and grief. I have enjoyed this blog for over a year, and really think you should get started on that book. I am in the Middle East right now but should be in Vegas for my Birthday in November. Hopefully, you can point me to some quality entertainment. Keep the posts coming. Hope that you keep us updated on the legal proceedings against the Mandalay. I would really like to see you compensated for your embarrassment and grief.

I have enjoyed this blog for over a year, and really think you should get started on that book.

I am in the Middle East right now but should be in Vegas for my Birthday in November. Hopefully, you can point me to some quality entertainment. Keep the posts coming.

]]> By: lasvegascourtesan http://www.thelasvegascourtesan.com/2008/06/08/the-worst-security-in-las-vegas-award-goes-to%e2%80%a6%e2%80%a6-mandalay-bay/comment-page-1/#comment-268 lasvegascourtesan Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:32:39 +0000 http://www.thelasvegascourtesan.com/?p=66#comment-268 Well this would all be easier if things were just legal here, but they aren't. This isn't a brothel we are trying to send to a room... legally as a license holder in Clark County Nevada when you get a permit to be operating an outcall service (which is what every business advertised on the streets, cabs, magazines, phone books, and such) you can only legally sell a girl to your room and a strip. Thats it. You can't sell a dance, a massage (we aren't license masseuses) or any other thing because its flat out illegal. We would walk into the room and be arrested. Period. So how do we get around that? We say the girls works on tips and since we are independent contractors we negotiate our price. In fact legally, in strip clubs here and back home where I used to dance, I can legally say my lap dances are 50 bucks on the floor when the base rate is 20 bucks. Thats because I am not an employee of the club I am an independent contractor ... so I can say what I want. It would be a dumb move there but you can do it... As well, cabbies are damned idiots sometimes. I hear them calling up literally selling a piece of ass in the background on the phone and the girl corrects him saying "what are you doing!? How do you plan to get paid? These girls work for tips and the customers need to know that" By the way, these guys knew they had to tip.. the thing was they didn't WANT to. Well this would all be easier if things were just legal here, but they aren’t. This isn’t a brothel we are trying to send to a room… legally as a license holder in Clark County Nevada when you get a permit to be operating an outcall service (which is what every business advertised on the streets, cabs, magazines, phone books, and such) you can only legally sell a girl to your room and a strip. Thats it. You can’t sell a dance, a massage (we aren’t license masseuses) or any other thing because its flat out illegal.
We would walk into the room and be arrested. Period. So how do we get around that? We say the girls works on tips and since we are independent contractors we negotiate our price.
In fact legally, in strip clubs here and back home where I used to dance, I can legally say my lap dances are 50 bucks on the floor when the base rate is 20 bucks. Thats because I am not an employee of the club I am an independent contractor … so I can say what I want. It would be a dumb move there but you can do it…
As well, cabbies are damned idiots sometimes. I hear them calling up literally selling a piece of ass in the background on the phone and the girl corrects him saying “what are you doing!? How do you plan to get paid? These girls work for tips and the customers need to know that”
By the way, these guys knew they had to tip.. the thing was they didn’t WANT to.

]]> By: chs http://www.thelasvegascourtesan.com/2008/06/08/the-worst-security-in-las-vegas-award-goes-to%e2%80%a6%e2%80%a6-mandalay-bay/comment-page-1/#comment-267 chs Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:53:53 +0000 http://www.thelasvegascourtesan.com/?p=66#comment-267 By the way, I know that is how agencies work, but if you do have an actual, printed piece of paper that describes what you described in the previous post, at least it lends more credibility to what you are saying. As well, the cabbies should mention that you are working for tips only. By the way, I know that is how agencies work, but if you do have an actual, printed piece of paper that describes what you described in the previous post, at least it lends more credibility to what you are saying. As well, the cabbies should mention that you are working for tips only.

]]> By: chs http://www.thelasvegascourtesan.com/2008/06/08/the-worst-security-in-las-vegas-award-goes-to%e2%80%a6%e2%80%a6-mandalay-bay/comment-page-1/#comment-266 chs Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:45:19 +0000 http://www.thelasvegascourtesan.com/?p=66#comment-266 Whatever deal you have worked out with the cabbies is going to backfire. People don't mind paying for services. What they do mind is expecting to pay X and being told, at the last minute, that they have to pay Y as "tips". You need to work out a different deal. The cabby's quote should include a base pay for you. Tips should be extra. If guys know, going in, the exact cost, they won't have a reason to get hostile. The guys were jerks, but I understand why. They were looking forward to a fun night, only to be told home much they would have to tip. Doesn't excuse it, but your price quote is not appropriate if it doesn't include on what you insist on being paid. Whatever deal you have worked out with the cabbies is going to backfire. People don’t mind paying for services. What they do mind is expecting to pay X and being told, at the last minute, that they have to pay Y as “tips”.

You need to work out a different deal. The cabby’s quote should include a base pay for you. Tips should be extra. If guys know, going in, the exact cost, they won’t have a reason to get hostile. The guys were jerks, but I understand why. They were looking forward to a fun night, only to be told home much they would have to tip. Doesn’t excuse it, but your price quote is not appropriate if it doesn’t include on what you insist on being paid.

]]> By: I http://www.thelasvegascourtesan.com/2008/06/08/the-worst-security-in-las-vegas-award-goes-to%e2%80%a6%e2%80%a6-mandalay-bay/comment-page-1/#comment-265 I Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:23:04 +0000 http://www.thelasvegascourtesan.com/?p=66#comment-265 Thanks for your response, welcome back, and sorry to hear you went through that kind of crap on your first weekend back in Vegas. I hope someone teaches that goon a lesson on how to treat people. Good to have you back and posting! Thanks for your response, welcome back, and sorry to hear you went through that kind of crap on your first weekend back in Vegas. I hope someone teaches that goon a lesson on how to treat people.

Good to have you back and posting!

]]> By: lasvegascourtesan http://www.thelasvegascourtesan.com/2008/06/08/the-worst-security-in-las-vegas-award-goes-to%e2%80%a6%e2%80%a6-mandalay-bay/comment-page-1/#comment-264 lasvegascourtesan Mon, 09 Jun 2008 00:34:50 +0000 http://www.thelasvegascourtesan.com/?p=66#comment-264 Well unfortunately when one guy acts erratically the trend is for his friends to go along with him.. so a few other guys started to get antsy and one reacted by putting a chair in front of the door. Actually.. from what I could tell they weren't drunk and the asshole was just being an ass. Plain as that... yes I made sure I got the name of the goon and badge # :) Well if you asked her to leave twice and gave her 40 bucks then you were probably dealing with a service who wanted some sort of cancellation fee. The thing with services/agencies is you have to give the agency fee first before discussing tips with the girl. All girls work differently so it's hard to give a general price girls will charge. I have never heard of a girl asking for 600 upfront no questions asked... but its more common for a $200 fee or so and then talk tips. I explained a bit <a href="http://www.thelasvegascourtesan.com/2008/05/14/las-vegas-escort-agencies-how-do-they-really-work/" rel="nofollow">over here</a> which I am sure you read. I will try and write an entry next about how to properly get an escort here in Vegas for the first timers.. whether its a service, a girl at a bar, or if you luckily find an independent online. BTW, I ask people if its their first time because I like to explain things thoroughly so there aren't misunderstandings... not to see how I can rip people off. Most girls ask so they don't have to repeat their schpeel.. it gets old! Well unfortunately when one guy acts erratically the trend is for his friends to go along with him.. so a few other guys started to get antsy and one reacted by putting a chair in front of the door. Actually.. from what I could tell they weren’t drunk and the asshole was just being an ass. Plain as that… yes I made sure I got the name of the goon and badge # :)

Well if you asked her to leave twice and gave her 40 bucks then you were probably dealing with a service who wanted some sort of cancellation fee.

The thing with services/agencies is you have to give the agency fee first before discussing tips with the girl. All girls work differently so it’s hard to give a general price girls will charge. I have never heard of a girl asking for 600 upfront no questions asked… but its more common for a $200 fee or so and then talk tips. I explained a bit over here which I am sure you read. I will try and write an entry next about how to properly get an escort here in Vegas for the first timers.. whether its a service, a girl at a bar, or if you luckily find an independent online.

BTW, I ask people if its their first time because I like to explain things thoroughly so there aren’t misunderstandings… not to see how I can rip people off. Most girls ask so they don’t have to repeat their schpeel.. it gets old!

]]> By: jaecyn http://www.thelasvegascourtesan.com/2008/06/08/the-worst-security-in-las-vegas-award-goes-to%e2%80%a6%e2%80%a6-mandalay-bay/comment-page-1/#comment-263 jaecyn Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:30:15 +0000 http://www.thelasvegascourtesan.com/?p=66#comment-263 Wow. Sorry to hear about your night. Sounds like most of those guys were alright, though I'm curious why they couldn't seem to contain the one guy? Whenever I'm out in a group and there's one loser drunk guy, we put him out of his misery and into bed. Hope that you got the name of the security goon at least? As per your reply in the previous post.. I had actually asked her politely to leave (twice) and given her $40 for gas before she went into the bathroom, to no effect. She was determined for me to give her 600 regardless. In my defence as a first timer, I was warned on numerous sites that if at any stage something seems wrong, it probably is and to abort. I knew she was calling someone while in the bathroom, and I really didn't want a no neck goon showing up at my door. I do see your point however, perhaps I did overreact? Hard to say in hindsight. I wish things had gone better, as it is I don't know if I'll try that again. C'est la vie! Perhaps you could write something for new players on how a smooth transaction should go, so both sides are comfortable? I'd probably feel better about trying again with advice from the other team. Is it normal for the escort to refuse to discuss anything until she's paid? That was what set my alarm off. Saying it was my first time probably wasn't the smartest in hindsight either. Regardless, I really hope you keep writing. I enjoy checking your blog. Take care! Wow. Sorry to hear about your night. Sounds like most of those guys were alright, though I’m curious why they couldn’t seem to contain the one guy? Whenever I’m out in a group and there’s one loser drunk guy, we put him out of his misery and into bed. Hope that you got the name of the security goon at least?

As per your reply in the previous post.. I had actually asked her politely to leave (twice) and given her $40 for gas before she went into the bathroom, to no effect. She was determined for me to give her 600 regardless. In my defence as a first timer, I was warned on numerous sites that if at any stage something seems wrong, it probably is and to abort. I knew she was calling someone while in the bathroom, and I really didn’t want a no neck goon showing up at my door. I do see your point however, perhaps I did overreact? Hard to say in hindsight. I wish things had gone better, as it is I don’t know if I’ll try that again. C’est la vie!

Perhaps you could write something for new players on how a smooth transaction should go, so both sides are comfortable? I’d probably feel better about trying again with advice from the other team. Is it normal for the escort to refuse to discuss anything until she’s paid? That was what set my alarm off. Saying it was my first time probably wasn’t the smartest in hindsight either.

Regardless, I really hope you keep writing. I enjoy checking your blog. Take care!

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